tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post1207472871994596542..comments2023-06-04T04:11:05.291-07:00Comments on Santa Cruz Trains: Railroads: Ocean Shore Railway & Railroad CompaniesDerek Whaleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17715926686413316877noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-7917097511794705352019-01-31T23:14:40.000-08:002019-01-31T23:14:40.000-08:00I was walking up Evans Street recently and in cros...I was walking up Evans Street recently and in crossing over a bridge built it said in 1941 where it ends at Cesar Chavez Avenue there appeared to have once been a railroad line going underneath that bridge many years ago. So I checked on the internet and sure enough at the intersection of Evans Street and what was then Army Street a railroad line that I had never heard of before called the Ocean Shore Railroad ran underneath it until at least as late as 1940 according to a photograph that had been taken there then. So that intersection it would seem must have been part of its route that had led to Daly City. Interesting, so now I know what line had once ran through there. A great big enormous gas tank had also once stood nearby at that time. Hard to imagine. So I'll have to go by there again sometime soon and see how it has all changed from 80 years in the past. Majestic Tigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03502088750742552725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-80419948904786312442018-06-24T00:12:07.750-07:002018-06-24T00:12:07.750-07:00Railway Recruitment Board or RRB is under the cont...Railway Recruitment Board or RRB is under the control of the 'Ministry of <a href="http://www.modelbuildings.org/" rel="nofollow">Railway Goods Depot</a> Government of India'. The RRB recruitment carries out the process of recruitment of candidates who have passed the examination conducted by the board. The main responsibility of the board is announcing vacancies in the Indian Railways and recruitment.<br />Aarijalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14346013409466228005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-8862829681321900722018-03-23T21:01:45.211-07:002018-03-23T21:01:45.211-07:00According to the back cover of Wagner's THE LA...According to the back cover of Wagner's THE LAST WHISTLE, the 1906 earthquake<br />"tossed most of the Ocean Shore grade into the sea..." but this cannot be true. The line did not teeter on the edge of a cliff except in certain short<br />stretches such as around Devil's Slide. It would be interesting to learn<br />where indeed the track actually slipped into the sea because a good deal of the track was inland including through all of it's San Francisco section. Duncan Nanneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-55592048414114482402018-02-20T21:44:45.615-08:002018-02-20T21:44:45.615-08:00And about OS and SP laying track to Davenport: the...And about OS and SP laying track to Davenport: the Calif. Railroad Commission, in Decision No. 1620 (June 24, 1914) reported that the OS and SP had a joint contract to build track to Davenport. The OS would have two tracks, and the SP would have one track, and accordingly the OS would pay 2/3 of the cost and the SP would pay 1/3. The Commission says this contract was fulfilled in full.<br />The Sentinel reported that both railroads were working together to get the OS track to Davenport first, so that the OS could fulfill the SP contract to provide machinery for the new cement plant (11/26/1905). SP provided a steam shovel to help get the job done, real collaboration. Presumably the OS had priority to get to Davenport because they were paying 2/3 of the cost, and they may also have purchased some of the right of way in advance.<br />The Sentinel has various references to the collaboration and the joint track, ending with a report on 3/23/1906 that both railroads should finish the joint track to Davenport and both be connected to the cement plant within a week.<br />Quite a story there, how fierce competitors collaborated and helped each other even. One factor probably was the north coast gulches. Wouldn't have made sense for each railroad to build its own trestles side by side, just reasonable that they shared the trestles at least..peter nurksehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03431419272001510403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-67565918337147629812018-02-18T22:40:40.159-08:002018-02-18T22:40:40.159-08:00Good to see the Ocean Shore story told, sort of an...Good to see the Ocean Shore story told, sort of an epic story even if it failed.<br />About the massive causeway over the SP yards to downtown, the city council didn't reject it, they actually approved it. City Ordnance no. 638, dated Sept. 17, 1907, grants the Ocean Shore the right to build a viaduct over the SP tracks and down to Pacific Ave. Sentinel reported big plans to put the Ocean Shore station at Cathcart and Pacific, heart of downtown, a poke in the eye for the SP. Seems there was major resentment of the SP locally, and the city council just reflected that sentiment, Ocean Shore passengers could have looked down on the SP from the viaduct, if it had ever been built.<br />About court actions: the Ocean Shore collected a jury award for $275,000 from the Pacifica School District in 2002, for building part of Pacific Manor School on the OS right of way (see Chris Hunter's book, "Ocean Shore Railroad"). So the OS could collect more than a quarter of a million an entire 80 years after the OS went belly up. More than one way to make money in the railroad business. The school district then renamed that school the Ocean Shore School, might have been part of the lawsuit settlement. Or perhaps the school district had a sense of humor.<br />On a local note, plans for the Marine Sciences Institute on the Westside call for a little short foot trail at the end of Delaware St., along the old OS right of way, to be called the "Ocean Shore Railroad Trail". Nice to see the Ocean Shore is still remembered.peter nurksehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03431419272001510403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-47656041568527079172018-02-11T08:13:11.330-08:002018-02-11T08:13:11.330-08:00The photo you show of the demolished turntable at ...The photo you show of the demolished turntable at Half Moon Bay in 1922 doesn't look right. There is nothing on the employees timetable showing<br />a turntable for Half Moon Bay. Arleta Park, which was only 0.6 miles away,<br />had a wye. A turntable would have been totally unnecessary if they could<br />turn the engines around a half mile away. Also, why is there a railroad still intact two years after abandonment? And those buildings don't look like anything in Half Moon Bay then or now. That looks like San Francisco to<br />me except there is no listing for a turntable there or anywhere else on the Ocean Shore system.<br />Duncan Nanneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-57424893510589746872018-02-11T07:22:37.334-08:002018-02-11T07:22:37.334-08:00When Peter Nurse posted this image, he also posted...When Peter Nurse posted this image, he also posted the text of the franchise the City awarded to the Ocean Shore. It stipulated that their trains would be electric, not steam locomotives. Unless there was a legislated change, they were apparently operating in violation, of their franchise, at least within City limits.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15999483115869076908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-16886161199604713202018-02-10T08:30:12.344-08:002018-02-10T08:30:12.344-08:00In the bird's eye view of 1907 the artist has ...In the bird's eye view of 1907 the artist has depicted a steam locomotive on the SP (Coast Line) tracks. You can see that its effluent plume is drawn in accordance with prevailing winds in the region. There appears to be a train on the Ocean Shore tracks as well, just west of Swift St. But no smoke or steam. I assume that's because it was intended to show an electric train?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15999483115869076908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2151799760990306051.post-51280718644118361882018-02-09T16:50:53.883-08:002018-02-09T16:50:53.883-08:00Page 81 of Wagner's THE LAST WHISTLE seems to ...Page 81 of Wagner's THE LAST WHISTLE seems to confirm my longstanding notion<br />that the autobus connection between the Northern Division and Southern Division tracks went from Tunitas to Swanton not Tunitas and Scott. The problem with Scott is that the Coast Highway at that time did not run through Scott but turned inland at Davenport Landing and went on to Swanton. <br />Also the timetables for the Ocean Shore show no trains stopping at Scott or Scott Junction which surely would have been a regular stop if there was an autobus connection here. After the Ocean Shore was abandoned, the present Coast Highway was built through the area of where Scott and Scott Junction had been located.<br /><br />There is an interesting photo on page 64 of THE LAST WHISTLE of a tiny waiting shelter which supposedly served as the terminal for the Ocean Shore in Santa Cruz. It is at a slightly higher elevation than the Southern Pacific roundhouse in the background.<br /><br />Thank you for another great article Derek!Duncan Nanneynoreply@blogger.com